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And we don’t live in an anarchy; the fact that you’re painting a society where the streets are generally safe and the rule of law generally holds sway as an anarchy proves that you’re a fundamentally unserious person.

2) no we sodding don’t, that’s the point about not living in some kind of comedy anarchy. We have the right to self-defence; punishment which isn’t self-defence is dealt with by the law.

3) no I haven’t; I’ve never suggested that the One guard in this case was “a yob”; I’ve used “yob” exclusively to mean “deliquent chavvy types who break the law”. The fact that you’re too much of a fuckwit to understand that the comment you’re taking as “ooh, that’s John B’s views, not the ones he’s consistently stated he has” only makes sense in the context of taking the piss out of a BNP-supporting moron is Somewhat Relevant [but thanks, you've reminded me that no matter what I say some idiot will take it out of context - I'm not sure if you were out cheering for the forces of moronicy in summer 2005 but it wouldn't surprise me...]

4) no I haven’t. As you’ll be able to confirm in the unlikely event that you’re capable of reading, I’ve consistently referred to the beaten-unconscious-faredodger as the yob, and the beating-the-faredodger-unconscious-guard as the guard/vigilante/punishment-beater, depending on context.

Bored now. Can we bring on some less stupid trolls?

BTW, is the reason you’ve changed your screen purely because you’re now aware that ‘Kusabi’ refers to homoerotic Japanesery…?

So why haven’t you pointed out how or where their lying in these cases? Are you unable to?

We have a judicial system to deal with punishment;

And we have the right to use violence against scum to deal with prevention, deterrence, and obstruction of crime. Thus guaranteeing public safety and order more than the ‘oo, you can’t use violence unless you have special authority’ brigade would like.

rather than the detailed and comprehensible statement of my true views

That ‘detailed and comprehensible statement’ was where you said you supported thugs over other people and though violence used to stop them was torture.

Your assertion that you were merely taking the piss out of someone is one hell of a stretch of the truth. Next you’ll be telling us you didn’t actually make that comment.

I’ve explicitly condemned both yobs and vigilantes, because I believe in the rule of law.

No, you’ve defined people who stand up to violent scum as being yobs, and actual yobs as being harmless, innocent victims, and have proceeded to attack the very same people the thugs target. Because you believe in the law of the jungle.

Oh and falco, I’m not sure if your idea of ‘civilized values’ includes ‘being the bully’s little toady and rushing in to kick someone who’s already being assailed’, but if it is, let me tell you that in the real world, noone would mistake you for a civilized man, they’d think of you as being an odious little savage.