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	<description>The idle musings of John B</description>
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		<title>By: John B</title>
		<link>http://www.johnband.org/blog/2008/01/18/sharp-ish/comment-page-1/#comment-26962</link>
		<dc:creator>John B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 10:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.johnband.org/blog/2008/01/18/sharp-ish/#comment-26962</guid>
		<description>Well, I&#039;m glad you&#039;ve seen the error of your ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;ve seen the error of your ways.</p>
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		<title>By: The Kusabi</title>
		<link>http://www.johnband.org/blog/2008/01/18/sharp-ish/comment-page-1/#comment-26934</link>
		<dc:creator>The Kusabi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 22:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;If you’d begun the conversation with something like “comment X on thread Y seems to have disappeared, can you explain why?”, rather than something more like “you are a liar who deletes comments he disagrees with and lies about it”, we might have got this situation resolved sooner.&lt;/i&gt;

Yeah, that&#039;s one of the perils of setting out to be the biggest prick you can be in blog circles, John - some people respond in kind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>If you’d begun the conversation with something like “comment X on thread Y seems to have disappeared, can you explain why?”, rather than something more like “you are a liar who deletes comments he disagrees with and lies about it”, we might have got this situation resolved sooner.</i></p>
<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s one of the perils of setting out to be the biggest prick you can be in blog circles, John &#8211; some people respond in kind.</p>
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		<title>By: John B</title>
		<link>http://www.johnband.org/blog/2008/01/18/sharp-ish/comment-page-1/#comment-26930</link>
		<dc:creator>John B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 21:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&lt;i&gt;Then you started messing about with comment moderation (which you’ve started using again I see, without telling anyone like you promised you would do).&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

Spam Karma divides comments into three different sorts - OK, borderline and spam. The ones that are considered OK go through without any intervention from me. The ones that are considered &quot;borderline&quot; are manually moderated. I approve all of these unless they&#039;re spam. The ones which are considered spam go into a folder where they&#039;re ignored unless I spend my time going through them and manually fishing them out, which is what I did today to work out why your comments were missing. This is the way this blog has worked since I set it up.

If you&#039;d begun the conversation with something like &quot;comment X on thread Y seems to have disappeared, can you explain why?&quot;, rather than something more like &quot;you are a liar who deletes comments he disagrees with and lies about it&quot;, we might have got this situation resolved sooner.

Anyway, whatever. The mystery is solved from my perspective; you&#039;re welcome to continue commenting here or to fuck off, as you choose, although if you keep lying that I&#039;m a liar then I might rethink that one. Do let me know if anything else you submit fails to get through, because heuristic software can be a bitch like that; my email is john at johnband dot org.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;<i>Then you started messing about with comment moderation (which you’ve started using again I see, without telling anyone like you promised you would do).</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>Spam Karma divides comments into three different sorts &#8211; OK, borderline and spam. The ones that are considered OK go through without any intervention from me. The ones that are considered &#8220;borderline&#8221; are manually moderated. I approve all of these unless they&#8217;re spam. The ones which are considered spam go into a folder where they&#8217;re ignored unless I spend my time going through them and manually fishing them out, which is what I did today to work out why your comments were missing. This is the way this blog has worked since I set it up.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;d begun the conversation with something like &#8220;comment X on thread Y seems to have disappeared, can you explain why?&#8221;, rather than something more like &#8220;you are a liar who deletes comments he disagrees with and lies about it&#8221;, we might have got this situation resolved sooner.</p>
<p>Anyway, whatever. The mystery is solved from my perspective; you&#8217;re welcome to continue commenting here or to fuck off, as you choose, although if you keep lying that I&#8217;m a liar then I might rethink that one. Do let me know if anything else you submit fails to get through, because heuristic software can be a bitch like that; my email is john at johnband dot org.</p>
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		<title>By: Banditry &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Spam filters and paranoia</title>
		<link>http://www.johnband.org/blog/2008/01/18/sharp-ish/comment-page-1/#comment-26928</link>
		<dc:creator>Banditry &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Spam filters and paranoia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 21:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] And so, back in the present on this factory-fresh, Wordpress-derived, entirely-not-programmed-by-me blog we have this edifying thread, in which another right-wing gentleman falsely claimed that I censored my comments to exclude people I disagreed with. Since I don&#8217;t, I assumed he was a lying arse, and told him as much. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] And so, back in the present on this factory-fresh, Wordpress-derived, entirely-not-programmed-by-me blog we have this edifying thread, in which another right-wing gentleman falsely claimed that I censored my comments to exclude people I disagreed with. Since I don&#8217;t, I assumed he was a lying arse, and told him as much. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Kusabi</title>
		<link>http://www.johnband.org/blog/2008/01/18/sharp-ish/comment-page-1/#comment-26926</link>
		<dc:creator>The Kusabi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Randomly?  More like systematically.  The comments I&#039;m referring to appeared in the first place, without a hitch.  You replied to them.  Then you started messing about with comment moderation (which you&#039;ve started using &lt;i&gt;again&lt;/i&gt; I see, &lt;i&gt;without telling anyone&lt;/i&gt; like you promised you would do).  And then when you started seeing posts pointing out how duplicitous you were by relying on comment moderation to keep people from showing you up, you went and deleted all my comments in their entirety.  Which happened at about the same time as I was making those comments, not &#039;months after&#039;.

And now you want people to believe it&#039;s all because of some spam blocker you don&#039;t know how to use and the dog ate your homework.  Bollocks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randomly?  More like systematically.  The comments I&#8217;m referring to appeared in the first place, without a hitch.  You replied to them.  Then you started messing about with comment moderation (which you&#8217;ve started using <i>again</i> I see, <i>without telling anyone</i> like you promised you would do).  And then when you started seeing posts pointing out how duplicitous you were by relying on comment moderation to keep people from showing you up, you went and deleted all my comments in their entirety.  Which happened at about the same time as I was making those comments, not &#8216;months after&#8217;.</p>
<p>And now you want people to believe it&#8217;s all because of some spam blocker you don&#8217;t know how to use and the dog ate your homework.  Bollocks.</p>
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		<title>By: The Kusabi</title>
		<link>http://www.johnband.org/blog/2008/01/18/sharp-ish/comment-page-1/#comment-26923</link>
		<dc:creator>The Kusabi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Randomly?  More like systematically.  The comments I&#039;m referring to appeared in the first place, without a hitch.  You replied to them.  Then you started messing about with comment moderation (which you&#039;ve started using &lt;i&gt;again&lt;/i&gt; I see, &lt;i&gt;without telling anyone&lt;/i&gt; like you promised you would do).  And then when you started seeing posts pointing out how duplicitous you were by relying on comment moderation to keep people from showing you up, you went and deleted all my comments in their entirety.

And now you want people to believe it&#039;s all because of some spam blocker you don&#039;t know how to use and the dog ate your homework.  Bollocks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randomly?  More like systematically.  The comments I&#8217;m referring to appeared in the first place, without a hitch.  You replied to them.  Then you started messing about with comment moderation (which you&#8217;ve started using <i>again</i> I see, <i>without telling anyone</i> like you promised you would do).  And then when you started seeing posts pointing out how duplicitous you were by relying on comment moderation to keep people from showing you up, you went and deleted all my comments in their entirety.</p>
<p>And now you want people to believe it&#8217;s all because of some spam blocker you don&#8217;t know how to use and the dog ate your homework.  Bollocks.</p>
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		<title>By: John B</title>
		<link>http://www.johnband.org/blog/2008/01/18/sharp-ish/comment-page-1/#comment-26922</link>
		<dc:creator>John B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right - apparently Spam Karma doesn&#039;t like the way that you come here infrequently and post lots of comments when you do, because that&#039;s also what spambots do. 

If it thinks you&#039;re doing that, then it also retrospectively moderates your old comments. 

Comments that are moderated as spam get deleted after a few months, at which point the software forgets you ever existed, and hence assumes you&#039;re someone who&#039;s come here /for the first time ever/ and posted lots of comments, which is again what spambots do. And to make matters worse, each time a comment gets put in the spam queue and you re-submit it, the software thinks you&#039;re spamming again and marks your previous posts as even spammier.

I&#039;ve turned off this part of the spam filter functionality; hopefully you&#039;ll be able to continue being paranoid and angry while spammers continue being deterred...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right &#8211; apparently Spam Karma doesn&#8217;t like the way that you come here infrequently and post lots of comments when you do, because that&#8217;s also what spambots do. </p>
<p>If it thinks you&#8217;re doing that, then it also retrospectively moderates your old comments. </p>
<p>Comments that are moderated as spam get deleted after a few months, at which point the software forgets you ever existed, and hence assumes you&#8217;re someone who&#8217;s come here /for the first time ever/ and posted lots of comments, which is again what spambots do. And to make matters worse, each time a comment gets put in the spam queue and you re-submit it, the software thinks you&#8217;re spamming again and marks your previous posts as even spammier.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve turned off this part of the spam filter functionality; hopefully you&#8217;ll be able to continue being paranoid and angry while spammers continue being deterred&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John B</title>
		<link>http://www.johnband.org/blog/2008/01/18/sharp-ish/comment-page-1/#comment-26921</link>
		<dc:creator>John B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I imagine that whatever happened to your post between 7:23 and 8:01 happened to them &lt;em&gt;[update: I&#039;ve brought that post back, although the original ones are apparently lost forever]&lt;/em&gt;. 

Trust me, I&#039;m already having a bizarre and vicious fight with my spam filter just to get your responses up and undeleted, which isn&#039;t doing masses for my productivity or temper. 

Much as I don&#039;t find arguing with you especially edifying, I&#039;d rather do without the technology randomly stealing your comments. However, there doesn&#039;t appear to be a &quot;whitelist&quot; function on SpamKarma.

[I have found comments left over the last year or so from various old-time bloggers that never made it onto the site or my inbox either. Sorry Laban. Sorry Anthony. Sorry Nathalie. Sorry dsquared. Sorry, Jim Bliss. And &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.johnband.org/blog/2008/01/21/spam-filters-and-paranoia/&quot;&gt;ironically&lt;/a&gt;, sorry David Duff...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I imagine that whatever happened to your post between 7:23 and 8:01 happened to them <em>[update: I've brought that post back, although the original ones are apparently lost forever]</em>. </p>
<p>Trust me, I&#8217;m already having a bizarre and vicious fight with my spam filter just to get your responses up and undeleted, which isn&#8217;t doing masses for my productivity or temper. </p>
<p>Much as I don&#8217;t find arguing with you especially edifying, I&#8217;d rather do without the technology randomly stealing your comments. However, there doesn&#8217;t appear to be a &#8220;whitelist&#8221; function on SpamKarma.</p>
<p>[I have found comments left over the last year or so from various old-time bloggers that never made it onto the site or my inbox either. Sorry Laban. Sorry Anthony. Sorry Nathalie. Sorry dsquared. Sorry, Jim Bliss. And <a href="http://www.johnband.org/blog/2008/01/21/spam-filters-and-paranoia/">ironically</a>, sorry David Duff...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Kusabi</title>
		<link>http://www.johnband.org/blog/2008/01/18/sharp-ish/comment-page-1/#comment-26920</link>
		<dc:creator>The Kusabi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hows about you explain the removal of my comments at the link I posted, then, John boy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hows about you explain the removal of my comments at the link I posted, then, John boy?</p>
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		<title>By: John B</title>
		<link>http://www.johnband.org/blog/2008/01/18/sharp-ish/comment-page-1/#comment-26918</link>
		<dc:creator>John B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like you posted it at the Sharpener /before/ threatening to post it at the Sharpener, which is a bit tricksy of you...

I&#039;ll respond here: even if I were much more stupid than I am, and even if I felt so threatened by your razor-sharp wit that I felt the need to delete your comments rather than allow people to see them, then I&#039;d delete your comments &lt;i&gt;without replying to the bloody things&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like you posted it at the Sharpener /before/ threatening to post it at the Sharpener, which is a bit tricksy of you&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll respond here: even if I were much more stupid than I am, and even if I felt so threatened by your razor-sharp wit that I felt the need to delete your comments rather than allow people to see them, then I&#8217;d delete your comments <i>without replying to the bloody things</i>.</p>
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