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	<title>Comments on: In which your host is proved right</title>
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	<description>The idle musings of John B</description>
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		<title>By: john b</title>
		<link>http://www.johnband.org/blog/2008/10/21/in-which-your-host-is-proved-right/comment-page-1/#comment-72112</link>
		<dc:creator>john b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 17:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely - although I think there&#039;s also an element of authoritarianism/anti-hedonism in the Conservative party (not shared by all Conservatives, clearly) that thinks it&#039;s better if people don&#039;t drink after 11pm - irrespective of whether or not they do any harm.

(note that if I refer to &#039;The Tories&#039; on this blog, it&#039;s shorthand for &#039;the views advocated by the current Conservative front-bench&#039;, not &#039;everyone who&#039;s ever voted Tory&#039;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely &#8211; although I think there&#8217;s also an element of authoritarianism/anti-hedonism in the Conservative party (not shared by all Conservatives, clearly) that thinks it&#8217;s better if people don&#8217;t drink after 11pm &#8211; irrespective of whether or not they do any harm.</p>
<p>(note that if I refer to &#8216;The Tories&#8217; on this blog, it&#8217;s shorthand for &#8216;the views advocated by the current Conservative front-bench&#8217;, not &#8216;everyone who&#8217;s ever voted Tory&#8217;)</p>
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		<title>By: Philip Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.johnband.org/blog/2008/10/21/in-which-your-host-is-proved-right/comment-page-1/#comment-72110</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 17:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, not all Tories agree with the party&#039;s rumblings on this.  I&#039;ve been complaining about it for ages.

For example,

http://philtforpontefract.blogspot.com/2007/07/24-hour-drinking.html

If you ask me, it&#039;s just a case of &quot;the other guys did it ergo it must be a bad idea&quot;.  Which is and always has been crap logic.  You weigh ideas on their own merits, not those of their proposers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, not all Tories agree with the party&#8217;s rumblings on this.  I&#8217;ve been complaining about it for ages.</p>
<p>For example,</p>
<p><a href="http://philtforpontefract.blogspot.com/2007/07/24-hour-drinking.html" rel="nofollow">http://philtforpontefract.blogspot.com/2007/07/24-hour-drinking.html</a></p>
<p>If you ask me, it&#8217;s just a case of &#8220;the other guys did it ergo it must be a bad idea&#8221;.  Which is and always has been crap logic.  You weigh ideas on their own merits, not those of their proposers.</p>
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		<title>By: Obnoxio The Clown</title>
		<link>http://www.johnband.org/blog/2008/10/21/in-which-your-host-is-proved-right/comment-page-1/#comment-70850</link>
		<dc:creator>Obnoxio The Clown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 16:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mine&#039;s a glass of champers, if you&#039;re buying, thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mine&#8217;s a glass of champers, if you&#8217;re buying, thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: John B</title>
		<link>http://www.johnband.org/blog/2008/10/21/in-which-your-host-is-proved-right/comment-page-1/#comment-70266</link>
		<dc:creator>John B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Diogenes: next time I write a piece on an area where the Tories are saying sensible things and Labour are being lying idiots, I&#039;ll happily point this out. In this case, it&#039;s the other way round.

Dsquared: cheers - was wondering specifically whether they published any UK retail banking reports, would be amusing to read them on, say, B&amp;B and HBOS...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diogenes: next time I write a piece on an area where the Tories are saying sensible things and Labour are being lying idiots, I&#8217;ll happily point this out. In this case, it&#8217;s the other way round.</p>
<p>Dsquared: cheers &#8211; was wondering specifically whether they published any UK retail banking reports, would be amusing to read them on, say, B&#038;B and HBOS&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: dsquared</title>
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		<dc:creator>dsquared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 08:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Landsbanki took over Teather &amp; Greenwood and Bridgewell Securities during the go-go years, and they do have a UK research team although I don&#039;t know anything about whether they have a drinks industry team specifically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Landsbanki took over Teather &amp; Greenwood and Bridgewell Securities during the go-go years, and they do have a UK research team although I don&#8217;t know anything about whether they have a drinks industry team specifically.</p>
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		<title>By: diogenes1960</title>
		<link>http://www.johnband.org/blog/2008/10/21/in-which-your-host-is-proved-right/comment-page-1/#comment-70041</link>
		<dc:creator>diogenes1960</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope you are also, in the interests of equality, going to run out of town on a rail the Labour ministers who distort facts to manipulate public opinion - incl but not limited to Brown, Darling, Balls, Mandelson, Harman...   surely far more worthy of being called lying crooks than people who do not actually wield power!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope you are also, in the interests of equality, going to run out of town on a rail the Labour ministers who distort facts to manipulate public opinion &#8211; incl but not limited to Brown, Darling, Balls, Mandelson, Harman&#8230;   surely far more worthy of being called lying crooks than people who do not actually wield power!</p>
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		<title>By: John B</title>
		<link>http://www.johnband.org/blog/2008/10/21/in-which-your-host-is-proved-right/comment-page-1/#comment-69746</link>
		<dc:creator>John B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I also enjoyed that. Disappointingly I don&#039;t think Landsbanki had a UK banking research team (d^2 to confirm); if they had, reading their reports this summer would&#039;ve been good for lulz.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I also enjoyed that. Disappointingly I don&#8217;t think Landsbanki had a UK banking research team (d^2 to confirm); if they had, reading their reports this summer would&#8217;ve been good for lulz.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is especially amusing is that yr Grauniad link contains a reference to some company being downgraded by Landsbanki...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is especially amusing is that yr Grauniad link contains a reference to some company being downgraded by Landsbanki&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John B</title>
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		<dc:creator>John B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bit of both, I think - the Defence of the Realm Act was ostensibly about increasing war production by improving efficiency and discouraging fripperies, but also about improving morale on the front through greater censorship and propaganda (including countering the belief that the cowards who&#039;d stayed at home were debauching soldiers&#039; wives and daughters...)

There was also an element of prohibitionist moral panic, it being the decade when the Temperance movement was at its strongest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bit of both, I think &#8211; the Defence of the Realm Act was ostensibly about increasing war production by improving efficiency and discouraging fripperies, but also about improving morale on the front through greater censorship and propaganda (including countering the belief that the cowards who&#8217;d stayed at home were debauching soldiers&#8217; wives and daughters&#8230;)</p>
<p>There was also an element of prohibitionist moral panic, it being the decade when the Temperance movement was at its strongest.</p>
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		<title>By: The Great Simpleton</title>
		<link>http://www.johnband.org/blog/2008/10/21/in-which-your-host-is-proved-right/comment-page-1/#comment-69496</link>
		<dc:creator>The Great Simpleton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Weren&#039;t the licencing hours changed (reduced) to stop the munitiuons workers getting pissed with their new found wealth and blowing up the munitions factories?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weren&#8217;t the licencing hours changed (reduced) to stop the munitiuons workers getting pissed with their new found wealth and blowing up the munitions factories?</p>
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