Comments on: Obligatory Manuelgate post http://www.johnband.org/blog/2008/10/29/obligatory-manuelgate-post/ The idle musings of John B Tue, 09 Mar 2010 13:34:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: diogenes1960 http://www.johnband.org/blog/2008/10/29/obligatory-manuelgate-post/comment-page-1/#comment-72816 diogenes1960 Wed, 05 Nov 2008 22:58:00 +0000 http://www.johnband.org/blog/?p=252#comment-72816 call it "improvisation"...I was listening to it in my car and it was ropey...the sort of thing that we would have got up to as a gang of schoolboys on a school-trip...was it of broadcastable quality? Obviously not. Who comes out of it worse? Ross - he was the one who said the most stupid and idiotic things. Why not just ask him to lie down in the middle of the M25 at rush-hour and make everyone happier? call it “improvisation”…I was listening to it in my car and it was ropey…the sort of thing that we would have got up to as a gang of schoolboys on a school-trip…was it of broadcastable quality? Obviously not. Who comes out of it worse? Ross – he was the one who said the most stupid and idiotic things. Why not just ask him to lie down in the middle of the M25 at rush-hour and make everyone happier?

]]> By: Laban Tall http://www.johnband.org/blog/2008/10/29/obligatory-manuelgate-post/comment-page-1/#comment-71974 Laban Tall Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:18:26 +0000 http://www.johnband.org/blog/?p=252#comment-71974 Alas, Ross is going to hang on in there for the money, 'cos he knows in the current climate ITV won't pay better. RB raised his stock with a surprising assortment of people by stepping down like he did. Fair play to him. As for the head of radio, once the BBC discovered that she'd heard the show before it was broadcast the can was well and truly in her lap. (and I think d2 is right, the original idea was that AS would take their call and he didn't, hence the 'improvisation'.) I must say it's tremendously entertaining to see so many people running round shouting 'why oh why', 'world's gone mad' and all the other phrases associated with my side of the political fence. Never in the field of human blogflict have so many fingers typed "Daily Mail" in anger. Alas, Ross is going to hang on in there for the money, ‘cos he knows in the current climate ITV won’t pay better.

RB raised his stock with a surprising assortment of people by stepping down like he did. Fair play to him.

As for the head of radio, once the BBC discovered that she’d heard the show before it was broadcast the can was well and truly in her lap.

(and I think d2 is right, the original idea was that AS would take their call and he didn’t, hence the ‘improvisation’.)

I must say it’s tremendously entertaining to see so many people running round shouting ‘why oh why’, ‘world’s gone mad’ and all the other phrases associated with my side of the political fence. Never in the field of human blogflict have so many fingers typed “Daily Mail” in anger.

]]> By: John B http://www.johnband.org/blog/2008/10/29/obligatory-manuelgate-post/comment-page-1/#comment-71929 John B Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:52:33 +0000 http://www.johnband.org/blog/?p=252#comment-71929 dsquared, does this match your understanding of events? dsquared, does this match your understanding of events?

]]> By: ajay http://www.johnband.org/blog/2008/10/29/obligatory-manuelgate-post/comment-page-1/#comment-71928 ajay Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:49:26 +0000 http://www.johnband.org/blog/?p=252#comment-71928 Ross is indeed an irritating and superfluous person. But, on the upside, this whole thing is probably a good sign for the economy, because I asked a bank economist a few weeks ago "how will we know when the crisis is over and things are back to normal, whatever the new 'normal' is?" and he said "when the financial crisis stops being on the front pages" and it's been Woss and Russel "Thinner And Less Funny Than, But With The Same Hair As, Jo" Brand every day this week. Ross is indeed an irritating and superfluous person. But, on the upside, this whole thing is probably a good sign for the economy, because I asked a bank economist a few weeks ago “how will we know when the crisis is over and things are back to normal, whatever the new ‘normal’ is?” and he said “when the financial crisis stops being on the front pages” and it’s been Woss and Russel “Thinner And Less Funny Than, But With The Same Hair As, Jo” Brand every day this week.

]]> By: dsquared http://www.johnband.org/blog/2008/10/29/obligatory-manuelgate-post/comment-page-1/#comment-71825 dsquared Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:54:47 +0000 http://www.johnband.org/blog/?p=252#comment-71825 Given that Brand will continue to have a career in Hollywood, I am prepared to regard his radio show as acceptable "collateral damage" in the cause of getting rid of Ross, who I've always seen as a blight on the land. Sachs, I do not give a fuck about, because he could have avoided this whole situation simply by <i>being in to pick up the phone when he said he would</i>. I really hate people who are unreliable about calls like that. Given that Brand will continue to have a career in Hollywood, I am prepared to regard his radio show as acceptable “collateral damage” in the cause of getting rid of Ross, who I’ve always seen as a blight on the land.

Sachs, I do not give a fuck about, because he could have avoided this whole situation simply by being in to pick up the phone when he said he would. I really hate people who are unreliable about calls like that.

]]> By: Snowdon http://www.johnband.org/blog/2008/10/29/obligatory-manuelgate-post/comment-page-1/#comment-71753 Snowdon Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:04:31 +0000 http://www.johnband.org/blog/?p=252#comment-71753 Brilliant analysis. The comparison with The Germans episode of FT is very perceptive. Ross and Brand were playing bumbling versions of their selves and that's what made it funny (and it was funny, as those who actually heard it the time rather than seeing 5 second clips on TV will know). While I like both of them, I realise that a lot of people don't get them at all and think they are overpaid knobs. Hence this whole storm in a teacup has become a popularity contest with the public literally voting them out with complaints about a programme they didn't hear. Brilliant analysis. The comparison with The Germans episode of FT is very perceptive. Ross and Brand were playing bumbling versions of their selves and that’s what made it funny (and it was funny, as those who actually heard it the time rather than seeing 5 second clips on TV will know).
While I like both of them, I realise that a lot of people don’t get them at all and think they are overpaid knobs. Hence this whole storm in a teacup has become a popularity contest with the public literally voting them out with complaints about a programme they didn’t hear.

]]> By: Philip Thomas http://www.johnband.org/blog/2008/10/29/obligatory-manuelgate-post/comment-page-1/#comment-71746 Philip Thomas Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:20:18 +0000 http://www.johnband.org/blog/?p=252#comment-71746 Cool, I'll leave the party bit blank for you then. Wish more people voted for candidates rather than parties. Politicians might start showing individualism. Cool, I’ll leave the party bit blank for you then. Wish more people voted for candidates rather than parties. Politicians might start showing individualism.

]]> By: John B http://www.johnband.org/blog/2008/10/29/obligatory-manuelgate-post/comment-page-1/#comment-71723 John B Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:28:58 +0000 http://www.johnband.org/blog/?p=252#comment-71723 I did - was in Finsbury Park - now am not (my current MP is the only person mentioned on this thread to have appeared in Celebrity Big Brother, which was marginally less embarrassing than his political pronunciations). I did – was in Finsbury Park – now am not (my current MP is the only person mentioned on this thread to have appeared in Celebrity Big Brother, which was marginally less embarrassing than his political pronunciations).

]]> By: Alex http://www.johnband.org/blog/2008/10/29/obligatory-manuelgate-post/comment-page-1/#comment-71721 Alex Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:19:54 +0000 http://www.johnband.org/blog/?p=252#comment-71721 <em>because Jeremy Corbyn is great</em> This means you must live somewhere near me. Meanwhile, the problem here is very simply a breach of the prime directive ("Don't be stupid, and don't be such a cunt about it"). because Jeremy Corbyn is great

This means you must live somewhere near me.

Meanwhile, the problem here is very simply a breach of the prime directive (”Don’t be stupid, and don’t be such a cunt about it”).

]]> By: John B http://www.johnband.org/blog/2008/10/29/obligatory-manuelgate-post/comment-page-1/#comment-71718 John B Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:01:27 +0000 http://www.johnband.org/blog/?p=252#comment-71718 Hover on fringes, pretty much. Voted Labour last Westminster time because Jeremy Corbyn is great; voted Lib Dem the time before because Beverly Hughes is awful. Would probably vote Tory if the alternatives were George Galloway, Charles Clark and Nick Griffin, but otherwise unlikely. Hover on fringes, pretty much. Voted Labour last Westminster time because Jeremy Corbyn is great; voted Lib Dem the time before because Beverly Hughes is awful. Would probably vote Tory if the alternatives were George Galloway, Charles Clark and Nick Griffin, but otherwise unlikely.

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